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  1. RE: Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Ray is Here to Stay!! Don't even worry it. I'm glad after years of being under the radar, David has popped his big head out - remember: he was M.I.A. for years post-Korn! Now he gets to watch what musicianship is all about! In his former band. That's got to sting.
    Co-Founder of KornRow.com

  2. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Quartz wrote:
    Questionable Choices is taking all of the words out of my mouth.

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    I dislike most people's reason for wanting to keep Ray. Most people say "He's a better drummer," or "David is an asshole."

    ...Seriously?

    There are definitely good reasons for wanting to keep Ray. Because he's a really great, sincere guy. Because he's a great drummer. But I barely ever hear those reasons. I usually just hear people bashing David as the reason for them wanting Ray to stay.

    Grow up. This isn't about some battle of comparison, seriously. They both have things they have going for them, and things they don't. There are valid reasons for wanting David back, and there are valid reasons for wanting Ray to stay in the band.

    The only acceptable reasons for wanting Ray to stay in Korn:
    "Because I like his drumming."
    "Because he's really nice, which makes band chemistry easier."

    And those are great reasons. "Because David is an asshole" is not a good reason. Grow up.

    Umm...do you work at a job? Do you have hobbies? Do you know what an asshole is? It's actually a VERY good reason.
    David has burned his one of many bridges. He loves forum posts like this because its all him, him, him. He loves attention. Loves to spur rumors. Loves to create drama. He said OUR site KornRow was talking shit about him - another lie by Silveria. We don't waste out breath on David with the exception of this post. I've been in the hospital all week and now I'm bring accused of talking trash to David - Good God, help David get over himself.

    I'm never going to convince you loyal David fans, but it's worth a shot. There's always going to be that one group of people who get ragged on and poked fun of. It's high school on the web. Childish. Trolls. Lots of trolls.
    Co-Founder of KornRow.com

  3. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    What people dont get is that Head was never replaced no one ever took his spot , as for David...Ray was hired so get over it Ray is Korn now....David had his chance and he blew it.
    KornHivGurl

  4. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    I would also like to see the original 5 honestly, I don't see that happening. David needs to get his act together because he's been talking trash about the band and he also need to realize that Ray is the official drummer for Korn. i love and respect David but, he's acting crazy, trying to get fans to harass the band etc. what's with all the ruckus? Bashing the band in public personally?? C'mon Now!! Where's the love???

    Been a KoRn kid since '98

  5. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    I don't feel like I am bashing anyone when I express my loyalty to the band, even if it is to how I remember the band with the OG5

    I don't agree with you @kornhivgirl I remember when Head left they got background vocals a keyboardist and it was almost like another band was on stage with KoRn

    I am just saying if they had Head would they have needed background vocalists and a keyboardist?

    I may be wrong but meh,

    I live in my dillusional world and would spend a fuck ton of money on a ticket to go see OG5 even if it were just one show. (I am sure there are more out there who would do that same too)

  6. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    *sighs* well...if Ray goes, it'll be so fucked up...

  7. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Korn is not going to let go of Ray they hired him for a reason
    KornHivGurl

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    Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    I really wouldn't worry about it! Korn knows what's best for Korn...PERIOD. They will do what's best and what's right for them.
    Moderator, Korn.com/JDevil.com
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    Administrator/Co-founder of KornRow.com

  9. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    TimboSlice wrote:
    Umm...do you work at a job? Do you have hobbies? Do you know what an asshole is? It's actually a VERY good reason.
    David has burned his one of many bridges. He loves forum posts like this because its all him, him, him. He loves attention. Loves to spur rumors. Loves to create drama. He said OUR site KornRow was talking shit about him - another lie by Silveria. We don't waste out breath on David with the exception of this post. I've been in the hospital all week and now I'm bring accused of talking trash to David - Good God, help David get over himself.


    You sound like you been fighting with David personally lol, wow. Step back and read what you wrote...

    Really?

    Once again, this isn't about which drummer is nicer to you on social networking sites, and which drummer retweets you... it's about KoRn. You guys don't get it man.

  10. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:33 AM

    I have been following this story since David first appeared on Kornspace back in February of last year.

    What David initially said is that Jonathan was manipulative and an egomaniac. He then went on to say that he wanted to punch Fieldy in the face and that he had slept with Jons wife “everyone had.”

    As Korn were going through a hard time with fan loyalty due to the poor reception "The Path of Totality" received from Korns prehistoric legion of metal head fans, a lot of fans immediately turned against Korn and went on a bit of a 'we love David' campaign. To tell you the truth this entire story appears to have turned Kornspaces moderators to the dark side and resulted in the closure of kornspace.com.

    My own personal opinion on how things were going on behind the scenes is that David had become resentful of Korn turning up their nose to any plans for a reunion with him. They never replaced Head, but Ray came into the picture pretty quickly after David’s absence and the two members who David seemed to hate most were constantly saying how Ray was a great drummer and the best they had ever worked with.

    On to David’s band Infinika. Let’s face it, the fans didn’t like them and things seemed to go from bad to worse for this band before they even got started, with the guitarist and bassist leaving before the band had even started recording an album.

    Things fell silent for a while with David continuously adding to his legion of supporters in the background via Facebook. People who were sceptical of David’s intentions remember his hate filled status updates towards politicians and other national figure heads and old fans including myself were shocked that the once quiet David had become an outspoken egomaniac with a lot of anger issues and a new found DUI to back up his deteriorating public image.

    Come 2013 head was set to re-join Korn on the road and David’s new band seemed to be doing very little bar posting pictures of David’s new drum kit which he continuously told us was birch and sent to him by Tama. The addition of an extra bass drum hinted at a war with Ray Luzier (my drum kit is bigger than yours) but underneath all the hype drum enthusiasts noticed that his birch drum kit was nothing other than a cheap mid-range Tama he had obviously picked up in a local music store and teamed with an odd bass drum and old gong he had lying around the house. This was in turn proof that David had severed his ties with the music industry and was in no way set for a worldwide launch of his new band that were little more than a bunch of failed musicians from LA clinching onto the last straws of stardom.

    By February David was on an "I want back in" campaign and began dictating to fans to swarm Korns boards and twitter with pleas for his return. This tactic fell short when Head commented in an interview that the band didn’t want him back, so on went his plan to attack at the source and began constructing manipulative comments to turn fans against Ray saying that there was proof the fans wanted him back even though the Korn boards suggested otherwise.

    What is the future for David, no-body knows but for now I think we would all like to stick with Ray thank you very much.

  11. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:56 AM

    I don't know what you guys consider replacing, but when one member leaves (Head) and then all of a sudden the next tour there is an entire masked band beind them, that seems to me like they were trying to replace someone. Even if they never officially said they were, it is still replacing. They had background vocalists, a guitar player and a keyboardists. Head use to do backgrounds and play guitar, so when he leaves and then you see people who are not in KoRn doing his parts, well to me that seems like he was being replaced, even if it was just because he wasn't there.
    But what the fuck do I know?

  12. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:44 AM

    Niall O'Sullivan wrote:
    What is the future for David, no-body knows but for now I think we would all like to stick with Ray thank you very much.


    "Thank you very much" lol, like that was a case closed book you typed there.

    Why are you people so interested in these guys personal lives? I'm starting to wonder if these are fans, or groupies.

    "FOR NOW" are the key words in your novel.....

  13. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:58 AM

    Once again, I'll say this. I'm a KoRn fan from 1995. I purchased EVERY album the day they came out except the 1st one... I got that one a few months after it was released. I bought at least 30 t-shirts throughout the years, and have supported them in many other different ways.

    Where myself, and all other pure KoRn fans come from... it's about the music, the chemistry, and the history. Real KoRn fans don't give two shits about who said what in the media, because that's childsplay. That's soap opera bullshit, and NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. All that stuff will eventually work out. Example: Head. How many of you kids (I know you're kids) have ever said horrible things to a loved one in anger? 5 years later were you family again??? EXACTLY

    I bet if David had a twitter account, and interacted with you like Ray does, you'd LOVE HIM lol.

    Ray is a great drummer, and seems to be a great guy, but he isn't KORN. Those 4 letters used to mean everything, now, they're misunderstood. Just the 4 letters "KORN" said it all. If you don't understand that, you never will.

  14. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:07 AM

    I think you young fans just don't get it. We are all one giant family, so I'm not punking you out, but you don't get it. KoRn isn't just some band that you plug pieces in and it's all good... KoRn is ONE ENTITY.

    Those 5 dudes repaired so many broken and lost souls, you will never know. That's why OGfans get so pissed when they read a stupid ass thread title like this one. You're guilty of being too young to have been there to understand. Not your faults.

    KoRn is:

    Jonathan Davis: Vocals, Bagpipes
    Fieldy: Bass
    Munky: Guitars
    Head: Guitars, Vocals
    David: Drums

  15. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    WaKe_Up your last two posts pretty much summed up how I feel about it too.

    You are spot on about the OG5 fans not giving two fucks about some stupid drama, KoRn has to remember this is for the fans.

    I do thank KoRn every day for helping me make it through middle school and high school, without that band I don't know if I would be here today.

  16. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    WaKe_Up wrote:
    I think you young fans just don't get it. We are all one giant family, so I'm not punking you out, but you don't get it. KoRn isn't just some band that you plug pieces in and it's all good... KoRn is ONE ENTITY.

    Those 5 dudes repaired so many broken and lost souls, you will never know. That's why OGfans get so pissed when they read a stupid ass thread title like this one. You're guilty of being too young to have been there to understand. Not your faults.

    KoRn is:

    Jonathan Davis: Vocals, Bagpipes
    Fieldy: Bass
    Munky: Guitars
    Head: Guitars, Vocals
    David: Drums


    @Wake_Up
    Yes, Korn is one entity, but, this situation is tough

  17. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    How about you all shut the fuck up, there's not wrong with ray or david they're both talented drummers. Grow up, cop on and move on and let Korn deal with this.

  18. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    WaKe_Up and Questionable Choices I understand where you guys are coming from. I've been a Korn kid since '98 I wish the KoRn familia would work things out one way or another..

  19. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    IndigoFlow wrote:
    How about you all shut the fuck up, there's not wrong with ray or david they're both talented drummers. Grow up, cop on and move on and let Korn deal with this.


    Message boards are for this kind of thing. I'll "shut the fuck up" when I'm ready. cool?

  20. Re: HELP RAY! PLEASE

    Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    Questionable Choices wrote:
    I do thank KoRn every day for helping me make it through middle school and high school, without that band I don't know if I would be here today.


    ^^^ This

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